Should I get another one?

Update 1: I returned it to NewEgg.

Update 2: it sounds like GigaByte has fixed the issue after I made this video. Here is a note from Peter who owns one.

They released a new BIOS two days ago that fixes the fan problem – it now only gets loud when you are really pushing the system and is silent otherwise. If on Silent mode it doesn’t even get to that top turbo mode ever – and on Auto it only does it if it really needs to (and even running CPU Stress tests I rarely get to that point of the fan even turning on at all). The threshold for fan start has now been bumped up to 60*C+ – it’s great :).

A while back I asked you guys what I should get for a new laptop and you gave lots of great ideas. I just purchased the GigaByte P34G. It costs close to $1,400.

It is super responsive within Lightroom and Premiere Pro, and it renders videos really fast. It is the dream laptop video editing machine, but the fan is too loud!

Can I build a fan curve to make it a little more acceptable to work with? Or should I get another laptop with similar specs that doesn’t sound like a jet taking off. Thoughts?

I’m not the only one complaining about this, check out the very long forum thread on the P34G fan issue and workarounds.

 

Email I Sent To GigaByte

I am really enjoying the speed of the P34G, however the fan is very annoying because it is ramping up and down very quickly. When I am working on video files I don’t mind the fan running at it’s “Extreme” level, however if my wife is cruising the web I don’t want it ramping up and down all the time.

So during simple web usage I switch the power settings to “power saver” and that lowers the max clock speed from 3.2GHz to about 1.7GHz which means the fan does not work as hard. However the abrupt change in fan level is distracting.

QUESTION: Is there a way to use a 3rd party or have you write a fan speed curve so it ramps gently instead of abrupt changes?

If you want to hear how loud it is, check out a video I created. I don’t want to return it if you can create a nice gentle fan curve.

Thanks!
Dave

24 comments

  • While the fan noise is pretty annoying it seems to need to be there. The temperatures are getting pretty hot and the fan appears to be cooling well. The fans running that hard so quickly shows that the heatsinking inside the machine is minimal as does the rapid variation in temp’ changes.

    I guess they used minimal heatsinking, to keep the size down, and made up for the thermal issues by forcing more air over the system.

    I don’t think there’s going to be much they can do with this in BIOS updates as they temperatures are rising to a point that needs cooling. It’s not a problem of fan coming on strongly while the temperatures are low.

  • My last laptop was noisy like your P34. It drove me crazy enough to use sound deflectors and foam to lower the noise a bit.

    I just got a 15″ (1920×1080) Lenovo W530. It has 32GB of RAM and a Nvidea K2000M video board which is supported by the Mercury playback engine. To help keep it affordable, I didn’t get the fastest processor. I tot the i7-3740QM @ 2.7 GHz. (You can configure it all the way to the i7-3940XMM, which adds $835 to the price.)

    Anyway, it seems to handle my Adobe software pretty well and the fan never gets loud, even when it speeds up it’s still pretty quite. However, it cost more than the GigaByte P34. As I configured it, it cost about $2200. Go to the page (link below) and click on the red text in the Models column that says ThinkPad W530 Laptop. This will load the configuration options.

    Lenovo W530

    Let me know if you’d like me to run some specific test for render speed and/or noise level.

    Good luck.

    Rob:-]

    p.s. I love your questions. rs
    pp.s. “Illegitimi non carborundum” meaning “Don’t let the bastards grind you down”

  • Dear Dave,

    You are too smart for choosing & find a good laptop.
    All ur work till today is quality delivery & I wouldn’t see how this laptop can help in future after few years.

    I’m sure you will find something worth try.

    Looking forward for ur next vid

    Regards
    Amin

  • It’s not a complete answer – but if your wife does not have an iPad I would buy her one. My wife loves her ipad mini. it’s meant for consuming website media show love it

    Good luck.

  • Hi Dave,
    Given the great render speed – rendering is a perfect time to go get a cuppa – I’d say stay with the GigaByte. Even in a remote situation, which is the reason for any laptop, a pair of Bose over-the-ears isn’t too much to bring along for hearing playback. And as you know, the vu meter is telling you a lot also.
    Cheers!

  • YOU ASK TOO MANY QUESTIONS! JK lol. I choose to click play. I take responsibility. 🙂

    Ok so I have say for the power per pound I would expect some noise from a laptop with a light heatsink. But that does sound a bit much. It might be needed though.

    My opinion: unless you want to step up in weight then it might be best to just live with it.

    My rendering laptop is quite but it is heavier than yours.

    P.S. If you look in the back of your manual it says that you can download the fan control app on your phone and fly it like a jet. Merry Christmas 🙂

  • The fan throttling could be caused by a bug/flaw in the BIOS, perhaps with the CPU thermal monitoring subsystem. I’m a computer professional and quite a few of the Dell E6X00 Latitudes would exhibit this exact behavior. Dell had already released a BIOS update by the time the end users began to complain about it. Check for a BIOS update for the laptop, it might just address this issue. If none exists then suggest to GigaByte tech support they investigate the possibility of creating a new BIOS fix.

  • I also am using a similar config like Robert Shaver’s. The W530 is an awesome machine.Fast, quiet. Highly recommended

  • you really should try a retina MacBook Pro I use it for premiere and AA all the time and pretty much only ever hear it when doing long renders. As for speed frames are only dropped when a couple filters at least are added.

  • Hi Dave,

    For me workplace environment is the most important. In the long run noisy machines will make you loose concentration and hinder your creativity. Unfortunately finding quiet machines with high performance are two contradictory requirements so some compromise must be done. However, a Jet fighter sounds like there is no compromise so I would have returned the machine or asked Gigabyte to solve the problem.

  • Hi Dave

    i’m pretty sure you wont finde a quiet laptop for video editing. as you know is this kind of work very cpu intensive. so the fan has to start getting lowder to get all the heath out of the notebook.
    it seems that the gigabyte is s more or less compact notebook. i suggest you at least try a bigger one. those normaly are not so noisy. maybe you also could try a macbook pro (just ged rid of this mac os and install windows 😉 as far as i know, they have a different heathsink design so that more or less the whole body works as heathsink…

    regards
    andre

  • Dave,
    I went through the process of researching lots of laptops just a couple months ago and ended up with the Lenovo W530. It is super quiet and fast. The base model has the Nvidia Quadro K1000M but I got one with the K2000M because I do a lot of After Effects work and wanted to use the 3D ray-tracing feature more. I am thoroughly pleased and actually do all my video editing (on Premiere) and motion graphics design on this computer alone. FYI, I have I7, 16GB ram, 500GB 7200rpm HD, micro SSD for cache. Quadro K2000M. At some point I will probably pick up the optical tray adapter and add a secondary HDD for extra space.
    Anyways, if you really can return yours and consider another laptop, you might give this one a look. From Lenovo you will probably pay just over $1400 but I got mine on Ebay for less.

    Good Luck!
    Brad

  • oops. I just saw that Robert recommended the same thing. I think the main reason for his being so much more expensive is because he has 32gb of ram. I bought mine with 8gb and added 8 more to save some money.

  • I suspect out in the field the noise would be less noticeable.

    Under the Newegg description you linked to was this comment from a reviewer: “When using a cooling pad the fans actually stay relatively quiet even after hours of gaming…” So perhaps you can try a cooling pad, and see if that doesn’t make a difference.

    My gut tells me you should probably avoid throwing the baby out with the bathwater. On the whole, that unit seems a pretty good value. You could drop some more coin for another unit, but you might also find that it doesn’t fare all that much differently.

  • I forgot to mention that you are able to define temps for when the fan kicks in using a curve. I think that was the feature you talked about in the video. If you use it, please make a video on the settings you used so that I can cross reference them with mine. Thanks!

  • Dave,
    Forget about Premiere CC on a laptop. Doesn’t worth the price. To many bucks for very average perfs.

    Your desktop computer is way faster in every domains:
    disk access, CPU, memory speed, GPU…

    Get a fanless laptop/tablet running windows 8 like the new Asus T100 (the model with a 500GB HDD inside). Howsome capacities, long battery lifetime to surf, work, show movies…. in total SILENCE (no fan at all!). With a USB card reader, you can even empty your memory cards in his 500GB HDD !

    That’s what i did and from now i will never buy a laptop with a fan anymore.

    Tip: Get a mouse… the only mistake on this laptop is the plastiky trackpad’s buttons.

  • Dave, I understand you don’t want to pay the Apple sales tax but I have the low end Mac Book Pro with Retina that I bought for $1099 during Black Friday. This is a tough, battery lasting good field computer. Its perfect for transferring, rough cuts, show clients, after effects, avid media composer, ect with no FAN NOISE AT ALL! When I render out, you barely hear the fan. Its a solid machine for the road. My Super Computer at home is Windows 8 machine and would never give that up. But Apple makes the best portable electronics. I can also upgrade the ram up to 16GB. Not very fast but you should do your hardcore stuff on your Monster Computer! With Tuxera, you don’t have to worry about formatting your drive to work between the two OS. Seriously bro, don’t dismiss the Mac Pro Retina line! Its worth every penny.

  • Yeah, it’s definitely loud when you push it.

    But: You can install the Smart Manager Utility, which is really nice for switching all stuff like Wifi, Bluetooth etc on and off anyway – it has a fan control built in, too. If you switch this to “stealth mode” the fan will stay in lowest setting (of course throttling the CPU, but this is what we want, right?)

    You’ll find this “Smart Manager V3” on the Gigabyte website amongst the P34G downloads. Look under “Drivers” for “Windows 7 32-bit”. There’s a version from mid-Dec 2013.

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