I am trying to figure out if high key lighting shots are not right for flat picture styles.

Went out boarding with my friend David Besnette yesterday and we both took our T2i’s along for the ride.

The camera’s did great outside all day below freezing and the batteries kept up with us too.

Still trying flat picture styles in high key lighting situations since I have had issues with that before, but I have not given up and I am still trying to make it work.

Pictures from the Ski Trip:

Loveland Ski Area Hut Kettle - HDR

National Wind Institute - Colorado

28-135mm Lens Reflection

David Besnette In HDR

29 comments

  • Dave , color corrector secondary is fantastic with the mask, I didn’t know that.
    I did it in Vegas, that also has this color corrector secondary with mask.
    I also discovered that Vegas downscale much better than Premiere to standard definition
    for DVD or any standard definition format.
    As you know when you downscale from HD to SD, artifacts and Moire caused by the down scaling shows up ( different to those caused by camera ), Vegas does a better job doing this. A tip for a tip.
    Premiere is as good in HD however.

  • Dave

    Two things from me:

    Awhile back you talked about ‘terra cotta’ skin tones in a vid. This nails that terra cotta look. And it has a true cinema definition to it. Nice.

    Also, Dave, it appears from your ‘ballet’ moves within Premiere Pro that you have left Sony Vegas in the rearview mirror.

    Thanks for a world of help from CO.

    Dan

  • Dave

    I would offer this as something that might be useful if not a whole lot of fun:

    Go to lynda.com

    Click a path to the training course “After Effects CS5 New Features”

    Go to chap 1 “Making use of updated Color Effects and Blending Modes”. Just a quick 5.42 minute tutorial.

    Dave, this will blow your mind re: color correction in CS5! I promise, you!

    You might be able to view this for free but if you need to spend $25.00 to see it: I will send you a check for $25.00. And I mean it!

    This will kill you, Dave, if you love Color Correction!

    Dan

  • By the way, i did some test abut picture style and i would like to share my thoughts with you…

    I think there is no picture style suitable for all shooting situations, so what best to do for on the flay shooting is to create three different picture styles, one for highlights, one for shadows, and one for both (flat).

    In big projects (like shooting long movie) i think its better if i have a small laptop withe me so i set the camera setting (setting iris, white balance, shutter speed….etc) and then if required, i do some enhancement picture style just to get better result for post .

    I hope this help….

    Aimen

  • Hi Felipe Henao,
    Could you tel me which plugin exactly in magic bullet do masking color correction, is it looks? or Colorista? i will appreciate that, thanks

  • @Aimen, Magic bullet looks , aply the filter then in tools choose post and there 3 way color corrector
    then press show mask, the mask will show when yo start applying corrections.
    I found better any way the Vegas Color corrector secondary, and there is a mask option.

  • i m greek So my english are not well.But i have an sony ex 3 an canon 5d mark ii and a panasonic sdt 750.i think flat profile needs work in edit and is for spesial movies.The profile you have for the tutorials is PERFECT for the MOST cases.

  • Great video, Dave. Your footage looks really good. Wish I could have been in the snow too. I learned a lot on secondary color correction from the video. You’re getting really good in PremPro CS5. Suggestion: When I adjust levels I usually do it in the color correction workspace with the waveform monitor open so I can know exactly what areas are being crushed or clipped. It’s really helpful.

    By the way, I also liked the photos. I bought the t2i really as a video camera but was amazed at the quality of the still photos. I was previously using a point and shoot Canon Powershot A590 IS, which is a great camera. But it is night and day compared to the t2i.

  • One other thing I forgot to mention. You indicated when looking at the snow that it was blown out. With Magic Lantern we have zebras. You know exactly what is overexposed and underexposed with the zebras, and that really helps in making decisions about exposure and picture styles. I’m not sure if you’ve used zebras before on your previous video camera. They’re great. Not as good as a waveform monitor though.

  • Is it just me but I get way way to much sharpness with marvel and crooked. I still love the standard with sharp, contrast all the way down and saturation down by 2. Does anyone else get way way to much sharpening with these picture styles.

  • Have you tried the settings recommended by Philip Bloom, I use this picture style the most and it seems to work well. It’s basically Neutral, Sharpness 0, Contrast -5, Saturation -3 and Color Tone 0.

  • Thanks for a great website! Do you have any tips for what to think about when shooting in snowy environments. I have tried to film my kids ice skating but the footage never seem to come out right.
    cheers!

  • Dave, what is the icon you are clicking to get to the levels setting dialog box. When I add levels I do not see that icon to click.

  • Hi Dave!
    Quick question, explain me how you see the difference between hi saturation picture style and flat with color correction in post production? I don’t see the need to use flat and then in post production fixing colors when you have hi sat pic style for that.. I don’t know if I get it right.
    Also, do you sharpen all your tutorials or it is just a good quality of a lense? I use standard one that I got with mine D550 canon.

    Thank you.

  • @Miro I leave the saturation at the default setting I don’t turn it down like others do. Yes I slightly sharpen my tutorial videos.

  • Dave,
    the reason flat styles don’t help much with the clipped snow is because they don’t really have more latitude up there in the highlights compared to basic styles. What they actually do is trade midtones range for blacks range. So the black range is expanded, and the mid ranged compressed, with the highlights not gaining resolution. There is a nice explanation on the workings of flat canon picture styles in this article.

  • Has anyone else tried the canon picture styles from Milk Studios? They are specially designed for skin tones. I find them easier to use than flat picture styles. Here is some more information about them http://milkstudios.es/

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